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A Conversation With Orlando Cepeda




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Last weekend, the Hall
of Fame opened a new exhibit, Viva Baseball, which chronicles the history of
Latin Americans in the game. Hall of Fame first baseman Orlando
Cepeda, a native of Puerto Rico and one of 11 Latinos currently enshrined in Cooperstown, attended the exhibit opening. During a wide-ranging
conversation with Mark McGuire of the Albany-Times Union, Hall of Fame researcher
Bill Francis, and me, Cepeda talked about his father, Negro Leagues shortstop Perucho
Cepeda, his own experiences playing in San Francisco, and his relationship with
fellow Puerto Rican Roberto Clemente. Humble in discussing his own
accomplishments, Cepeda lavished praise on a number of lesser known Latino
standouts, including Minnie Minoso, Ruben Gomez, and Hector Espino.



McGuire: What do
you think, looking around this exhibit, seeing your dad’s stuff [on display]?


Cepeda: Awesome.
Awesome. Awesome. Incredible. You know, he never saw me play [in the major
leagues]. You know he died one day before I played my first pro game. He died.
I remember like in 1952, I was 15 and I got my knee operation. He had to talk
to the doctor and asked him, “Do you think my son will be able to play ball?”
My father always had it in his mind that someday I would be a ballplayer.


McGuire: Who was
better, you or him?


Cepeda: He was


McGuire: When you
look at the state of Latin players, we think of them as one big group,
regardless of what country they come from. Do you notice different styles of [Latino]
players from different countries? Or is it pretty much the same?


Cepeda: The same.
Baseball is [played] one way. They [the Latino players] are the same. So many
great players, from the Dominican, Venezuela, from Cuba, they never had the
opportunity to play in the big leagues–they never made the Hall of Fame–but
they were as good as people who are in the Hall of Fame. So many great Latino
players, like Minnie Minoso, they opened the door for us. He was the first
Latino star in the big leagues, Minnie Minoso. There was also Vic Power, Ruben
Gomez, so many great players that never made it to the Hall of Fame, but they
were very good players.


McGuire: What do
you think of the idea that you’re part of an exclusive club here in the Hall of
Fame of Latino players, but it’s pretty much going be doubled [in membership] soon.


Cepeda: Yeah, it
is. We’re so proud that we were the first ones in the Hall of Fame. A day like
today will live forever. So that’s why I say thank you to Hall of Fame
president Jeff Idelson for thinking about putting this [exhibit] together. It’s
a great day for Latinos.


McGuire: It’s
kind of strange how you growing up couldn’t necessarily have dreamed of playing
in the major leagues [because of skin color], but with Albert Pujols, Jose
Reyes, Johan Santana now, you really can’t picture baseball today without
Latino players?


Cepeda: Al Kaline
told me last year that if it weren’t for the Latino player, baseball would have
been dead by now because there are just so many great Latino players today.


Earlier, Juan Marichal talked about how you and Felipe Alou helped him when he
first came to the big leagues with the Giants. Who helped you when you first
arrived in San Francisco?


Cepeda: Ruben
Gomez. Ruben Gomez. In 1958, I lived with him. You need somebody to work with
you. And that’s what we did with Juan in 1960. We made him feel welcome right


Markusen: Of all
the major league cities you played in, which was the most receptive to Latin


Cepeda: Oh, San Francisco. San
Francisco, because they had so many people from different backgrounds, so much
diversity. Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Central Americans. So they welcomed me
right away in San Francisco.


Francis: Can you
talk about how the Giants embraced the Latin American player? It seems like the
Giants had a lot of Latin Americans. Was it because of Alex Pompez [the scout]?


Cepeda: No, it
wasn’t Alex Pompez. The guy who signed me–his wife is here today– was Pete
[Pedrin] Zorrilla. Pedrin, he was very close to Horace Stoneham, the Giants’


At one time, the Giants had like 30 Latinos in the minor
leagues. Manny Mota, Jose Pagan, me. From 1954 on, a lot of Latinos.


Francis: Can you
talk about the Alvin Dark incident? Was that the worst experience you had in major


Cepeda: Yeah,
about that, he told me a few years back that he was very sorry that happened.
He didn’t know the Latino heritage, that for a Latino to come here and do well,
was very difficult. He was very sorry for that.


Francis: That
must have been tough.


Cepeda: Yeah,
very hard, very hard. Because baseball is a tough game in all aspects, and now
you had to deal with Dark and you had to deal with the pitcher. You had to deal
with the game every day; it was very hard.


Markusen: How
close were you with Roberto Clemente?


Cepeda: Well, I
knew Roberto since 1950. He played for my dad, you know, for a couple of games,
but didn’t make the team. In 1955, we came here to the states. He came here in
1954, to Montreal.
In ’55, we flew together to Florida for spring
training to Fort Myers,
the Giants’ minor league complex. Yeah, very close. Still very close to the family,
his wife, Roberto Jr., who is here today.


Markusen: You
must remember very well where you were when you heard that he had died.


Cepeda: Oh yeah,
I was at my brother’s house, when I heard the news.


Markusen: Another
player prominently featured in this exhibit is an underrated player, Hector
Espino, who was called the “Babe Ruth of Mexico.” Did you ever play against


Cepeda: Yeah, I
played against him in 1974. He came up, I believe it was in 1960, with St. Louis. He signed with St. Louis [but never
played in the major leagues]. I played against him in ’74, when he was in the
Mexican League.


Markusen: How
good was Espino?


Cepeda: Great.
Great hitter.


Markusen: Do you
think he would have starred in the majors.


Cepeda: Yeah,
yeah. He was a great low ball hitter. If you’re a great low ball hitter, you
can play anywhere.


Markusen: Thanks,
Orlando, for
your time.


Dastardly Denny

Always outspoken, Denny McLain is at it again. The former Tigers’ ace has just issued his third autobiography (and more could be on the way given McLain’s penchant for trouble). In his latest volume, McLain verbally attacks several of his former Tiger teammates, most notably Hall of Famer Al Kaline. McLain describes Kaline as not being particular popular in the clubhouse, especially during the latter stages of the 1968 season, when he almost hurt himself before the World Series by slamming his bat into a bat rack. McLain also knocks Kaline for refusing to accept a salary increase from the Tigers’ front office, an increase that would have put other Tiger players in better positions to ask for raises.

In some cases, the messenger is just as important as the message. McLain’s “messages” about Kaline are worthy of debate, but there’s little debate about the “messenger” here. This is the same McLain who expected the Tigers to treat him one way, that is to say royally, while treating the other players a different way, that is to say, like peasants. This is the same McLain who abused his body by living a high-wire lifestyle that included the daily consumption of a case of Pepsi. And this is the same McLain who has spent two terms in federal prison on a variety of counts, including racketeering, embezzlement, extortion, and drugs.

I want to like McLain. At his peak, he was an extraordinary pitcher and a Hall of Fame talent. He has always been articulate and charismatic. Some of the misfortunes he has suffered, including some financial issues, have not been his fault. Yet, he makes himself hard to sympathize with when he constantly points the fingers at others, whether it be Kaline, fellow pitching ace Mickey Lolich, or a lowly backup catcher like Jim Price. A little less assignment of guilt, and a little more accountability, would go a long way toward making McLain more sympathetic and a lot less objectionable.

1968 Revisited

It is the matchup that no one predicted. Two teams that staggered into the postseason after sorrowful Septembers will now meet for the right to be called World Champions.

The 2006 versions of the Cardinals and Tigers will be hard-pressed to match the drama and charm of 38 years ago–the last time the two teams met in postseason play. In 1968, the two storied franchises squared off in the last World Series before the adoption of divisional play and the League Championship. Let’s take a look back.

Although the 1968 World Series didn’t include a single one-run game–with only one game decided by as little as two runs–it did feature a slew of memorable moments and record-breaking accomplishments. An intriguing decision made by one of the managers prior to the Series also made headlines. Tigers skipper Mayo Smith decided to replace light-hitting shortstop Ray Oyler with converted center fielder Mickey Stanley, who had never before played the infield in his major league career. The move accommodated the return of Al Kaline from the disabled list, while necessitating the shift of Jim Northrup from right field to center. Despite some criticism, the move paid off for Smith. Stanley played shortstop without incident, while Kaline’s heavy hitting helped carry the Tigers’ offense…

In a Game One matchup of Cy Young Award winners, Bob Gibson outdueled Denny McLain on his way to striking out 17 Tigers, breaking the World Series record for most strikeouts in a single game. McLain, a 30-game winner during the regular season, was knocked from the box in the sixth inning…

The Cardinals took a three-games-to-one lead in the Series on Gibson’s 10-strikeout gem in Game Four, only to watch the Tigers storm back with victories in the fifth and sixth games…

Pitching Game Seven on only two days’ rest, Series MVP Mickey Lolich outlasted Gibson, 4-1, to pick up his third victory of the Series. Jim Northrup’s two-run triple in the seventh (which came courtesy of Curt Flood’s misjudgment of a fly ball) salted the game and completed the comeback for Detroit. The Tigers became only the third team in history to win a Series after trailing three games to one…

Several Hall of Famers participated in the Series, including Gibson, Lou Brock, Steve Carlton, and Orlando Cepeda for the Cardinals, and Al Kaline and the late Eddie Mathews for the Tigers. Mathews’ three pinch-hit at-bats represented his final major league appearances as a player…

Brock received strong criticism for his failure to slide into home plate on a close play in Game Five. Bill Freehan tagged out Brock, quashing a fifth-inning rally. Kaline’s bases loaded single in the seventh spearheaded the Tiger victory…

Aside from the Hall of Famers, a trio of notables participated in the Series for the Cardinals: catcher Tim McCarver, who has since gained more fame as a network television broadcaster; center fielder Curt Flood, perhaps the game’s most important labor pioneer; and right fielder Roger Maris, the onetime American League home run king who would announce his retirement after the Series…

In a sidenote, Jose Feliciano stirred controversy with his unusual rendition of the National Anthem prior to Game Five at Tiger Stadium. The length of the anthem particularly annoyed Mickey Lolich, who felt that his preparation for Game Five was disrupted by Feliciano’s slow delivery.